Jul 26, 2021
Heritage sheep breeds, ink as the new souvenir sock skein, and Marsha's realization that she needs to get out of her basement are all on the agenda this week. Plus, a reminder that we have just over a month left of our Summer Spin In.
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Spinning the brown and green merino.
Atlas (Ravelry link) by Jared Flood using Navia Tradition. The pattern is also available at his website. I have completed the body to the armholes and almost completed the first sleeve. I’ve washed and blocked it to see how it looks and to be able to measure the body.
I’m continuing the Oxford spinning. I am still keeping my options open for a 3-ply where I’m more careful about the twist. I’d like the yarn to be more loosely plied than my 3-ply sample. I have almost three full bobbins of singles and plenty of fiber left. I carded about 400 grams. Here is the project page for this handspun. Information about Oxford fleece: Livestock Conservancy status is “watch.” Fewer than 2,500 annual registrations in the United States and an estimated global population less than 10,000.“
I’ve made good progress on the Dark Green Forest cardigan (Ravelry link) by Christina Körber-Reith. She also has the pattern at her website, Strickhauzeit. I’m using handspun 3-ply (fingering to sport weight) from a CVM (Romeldale) fleece that I overdyed. I’ve gotten down to the pockets. The sweater has a ribbed front band and honeycomb cable down the sleeve and on the pockets. It has saddle shoulder construction and a square “sailor” collar that also has ribbing.
Information about CVM sheep: status is “threatened” with fewer than 1,000 annual registrations in the United States and an estimated global population of less than 5,000.
Sheep breed resources: Livestock Conservancy, Oklahoma State Breeds Directory.
Marsha talks about mistakenly donating some of her favorite children’s books by Bill Peet.
Ella Elephant, Jennifer and Josephine
Great documentary on Netflix by the actress Geena Davis about equality in the media. Here is a link to the YouTube trailer of This Changes Everything.
Pens--SF Pen Show August 27-29. Held about 35 miles south of SF in Redwood City, Kelly and Robert will be there Saturday, August 28.
Just over a month to go!
Prizes from Three Green Sisters
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Marsha 0:43
Good morning, Kelly.
Kelly 0:44
Good morning, Marsha. How are you?
Marsha 0:46
I'm doing well.
Kelly 0:47
Good. I want to ask you a question. Okay, so Marsha, what knitwear
Are you wearing today?
Marsha 0:55
Not a stitch?
Kelly 0:57
Not a stitch of knitwear.
Kelly 0:58
No.
Kelly 0:59
Well, now, that actually makes sense. Because what season are we in
here in the Northern Hemisphere?
Marsha 1:07
High summer?
Kelly 1:08
Yes.
Marsha 1:10
And... but not where you are I take it, based on this question.
Kelly 1:13
And I'm not complaining. I'm just providing you information.But I
am currently wearing ...although probably some of it will come
off.
Marsha 1:23
Wait a minute, let me get a pen. I have to write this down.
Kelly 1:25
So I'm currently wearing from head to toe... I'm currently wearing
my Rikke hat. I'm wearing the Habitat sweater that I crocheted. And
I'm wearing handknit socks.
Marsha 1:40
Kelly Kelly, you need to book a flight ASAP to Seattle.
Kelly 1:43
I heard that, that there's, you know, all this heat going on all
around the country. And I feel bad for everyone who is you know,
going through all the heat and the fires and, and, and then
there's, you know, flooding. I hope that all of our listeners in
Germany are okay, so I don't want to complain about my lot in life.
But let me just provide you with some information. Anybody who's
suffering from heat should come to Monterey County, because in the
last month... I looked up the history in the last month, we've had
two days above 70 degrees.
Marsha 2:22
Oh, my goodness.
Kelly 2:23
And guess how high we got in those two days above 70 degrees?
Marsha 2:25
71?
Kelly 2:29
Yes. And 72. Oh, my God, it was a heatwave. Yes. So yeah, we do
have some higher temperatures coming. Next week, we get one... But
by the time it gets here, the the prediction of these high
temperatures almost always goes down by about four degrees, four or
five degrees. So we have 80 predicted for Tuesday of next week. So
we'll see if that happens. You'll have to check back. Good thing I
have knitwear that's all I have to say.
Marsha 3:06
It was interesting thinking about these changes in the weather
because it's happening around the world and and some terrible,
terrible things are happening. But that heatwave we had here in
Seattle, where it was you know, 110? There's been many effects of
it. I mean, people died. That's terrible. But I was listening to
our local NPR station. And they were saying that over 50 people
have become ill by eating shellfish. Because it got so hot. There's
a bacteria that forms in shellfish in hot weather. People have been
getting sick because the temperature is so high. They also lost a
lot of oysters and other shellfish because they literally cooked in
their shells because it was so hot.
Kelly 3:59
Oh my gosh.
Marsha 4:01
So it's really... There... that heat way we had is going to have a
real impact on food production here in the Pacific Northwest, just
those few days now.
Kelly 4:12
Yeah,
Marsha 4:14
It's really interesting the impact that
Kelly 4:16
well, not just the shellfish. I know when we have had high
temperatures here, they typically will come in, like in September,
sometimes even as late as October. But when we get those high
temperatures in September, we've had apples on the trees, and
they're like applesauce. I mean, if you don't have the apples off
the tree by that time, then after those couple days of you know,
high 90s or mid 90s. Those apples are terrible. So I can imagine
the impact that has had.
Marsha 4:53
Well I wonder if this cool weather you're having is going to have
an impact impact on production because you live in an agricultural
country community, right. And they're kind of cool weather
crops.
Kelly 5:03
Yeah.
Marsha 5:04
But this is awfully cool for them.
Kelly 5:07
So we grow a lot of strawberries here. Lettuce is not having any
problem. There are... there are more and more berry fields--
regular berries. And I don't know, I don't know if the lack of heat
has has affected them at all. We have an apricot tree and a plum
tree and the apricot are just now starting to get ripe, which I
think is really late for apricots. I don't know because this tree
hasn't produced very well in the past. So I don't know what its
typical timing is like, but I seem to remember apricots being a
more early summer fruit when I was a kid. We had an apricot tree
when I was growing up. It's probably not super abnormal, honestly,
for us to have this kind of weather here in Salinas. I mean, it's
not-- I don't think it's normal, normal, but I don't think it's
super abnormal. If I went back and looked at the history, I mean. I
remember when I first moved here, I didn't take off a sweatshirt
all summer long. It was-- I was freezing to death all the time. And
that's kind of how I feel this year. And maybe I just like to
complain! Well, and the house would be warmer if I closed the
windows, but I have to have open windows in the summer. [laughing]
And that's dumb because it's not warm outside. But that's just the
way it is in summer you open the windows and sleep with the windows
open. So anyway, yeah.
Marsha 6:42
Okay, this leads me to something Kelly. Because we are...are we
complaining?
Kelly 6:49
No,
Marsha 6:50
a little?
Kelly 6:50
I'm not gonna... we're not...
Marsha 6:54
just a tad. Anyway. So I I have something just I have something to
say. So the last episode, I was walking Enzo and listening to the
episode. And about halfway through the beginning before we got to
any fiber stuff. I texted you. And my text was, Oh my gosh! Shut up
about your basement!
Marsha 7:24
And I was... I don't remember know what your response was. But
anyway, I went back and it was like 10 minutes, Kelly, that I
talked about my basement. As I was walking along my thought was
first like, Oh my goodness, shut up about that basement! Nobody
cares. And my second thought was, You need to get out of that
basement.
Kelly 7:44
Marsha, get a life! [laughing]
Marsha 7:47
And so I'm here to announce. This is the last time I'm going to
talk about my basement. It's not healthy. And I got out of my
basement and I went last Tuesday or this... Tuesday of this week.
This is Friday that we're recording this. Tuesday, I went up to
Index, Washington and for people who are out of state, that's a
small former mining town up on highway two. It's near-- on the way
to Stevens Pass, which is you know, big mountain pass
Kelly 8:17
And north on you right?
Marsha 8:18
North of me. Yeah. And the reason I went up there is Ben, my son is
working up there on and off during the summer. He met up... Well, I
should back up and to say Index was originally a mining town.
That's how it started. But now it's become a huge destination for
climbers. And apparently it's world renowned, this area, for
climbing. They have great rock. Like I don't know what I'm talking
about. I'm just quoting Ben, because I'm not a climber.
Kelly 8:49
Yeah, like what makes a great rock as opposed to just a rock?
Marsha 8:55
So anyway, he goes up there and climbs. And there's a guy who lives
here in Seattle who goes up there all the time and climbs. A guy
named Richard. Apparently he bought a house up there, a small
cabin. And so Ben has been going up and helping him fix it up, make
it sort of... It's it's kind of rough. And so he's been helping him
and so he goes up there for about five days at a time and then
comes back. So I thought a nice outing would be to go see Ben in
Index and do a hike. So I went up on Tuesday, I finally found Ben.
That was kind of, well, I will, well... Do you want to hear the
story about how I found Ben? Because he said to me, Index is really
small. I have no idea what the population is. A tiny, tiny town and
there's like two streets when you come into town. You can go left
or you can go right and so he says, when you come into town you go
left and you just go down to the--you know, keep going down the
road and you'll see the house. I go into town. I go left. I can't
find the house. I'm driving all the way almost to the end of the
road, I'm now getting into Forest Service land. I'm going-- I go
back. That can't be right, I go check again. So I go up and down
this road about three times trying to find him and I finally gave
up and thought, I'm just going to go walk the dog around the town
and check it out. And then I'm going to go do my hike. And I was
just getting ready to leave when I get a text from him because
there's very poor, so there's no real cell service there. It's very
hit or miss, I get a text like, I'm glad you're coming. You'll see
the house. It has a whole bunch of free stuff out on the road. So
I'm like, Okay, well, I'll go down this highway, you'll go left
down this highway, which I did. And I finally see some free stuff
by the side of the road. But it looks like it's been there for a
long time, because there's like weeds kind of growing through it.
And I don't see his car at that house. But I see there's like a
driveway and kind of a long like alley kind of thing. And so I
decided to go down that maybe the house is down that road. And I go
down this little driveway and I see a guy working on a house or a
garage or something and I just get out and I said, Are you Richard?
And he said No, I'm not. And I said, Oh, I said. Well, do you have
a minute to hear my story? And he's kind. He said, Yeah, I have a
minute to hear your story. And so I said, Well, my son is up here
working for a guy named Richard from Seattle who bought a house and
I give a little story because there's a little story about how he
got the house and who used to live in the house and how they got
that person out of the house. And he says, Oh, I know that house.
Because it's a tiny town anyway. You're probably ahead of me in the
story. It's that when you come into town you turn right. Not Left.
[laughing]
Kelly 11:51
Right. Oh my god.
Marsha 11:53
The details, right?
Kelly 11:54
Yes.
Marsha 11:55
So I go. Oh, I know. Yeah. So anyway, I and I, because I said to
him, Well, it's a small enough town. I figured somebody would know
the story. And he said yeah, I know the story. That was really
funny. Anyway, I went back the correct direction, found Ben,
immediately saw the house. We chatted for a little bit and then I
went on my hike. So I did do a hike. So that was really nice to
see. So this is the point of my story it's-- what's the phrase? Oh,
the devils in the details?
Kelly 12:27
Yes.
Marsha 12:27
That's the phrase? Yeah, yeah.
Kelly 12:30
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you got out of the basement, Marsha. Yeah. So
it sounds like you had a nice a nice little outing.
Marsha 12:37
Yeah, it was really nice. And it's beautiful up there. Really,
really beautiful. And, yeah, so that's the last time that wore is
going to cross my lips in this podcast
Kelly 12:49
Ok, right! Good to know.
Marsha 12:54
Let's see if I can do it now.
Kelly 12:57
Oh, funny. Anyway, all right. Well, okay, since you aren't going to
talk about the thing that will not be named. What about your
projects?
Marsha 13:09
Well, I...not a lot, well, not a huge amount to report. I've been
spinning. So I have ... I'm almost done with a second bobbin of the
brown for that brown and green that I'm making. Okay, and so I have
one more bobbin that I need to spin and then I can ply that
together. So I work on that in the afternoons. You know, sit out on
my deck, and spin for a little bit. And so I'm making progress on
it, but it's not, I'm not working on it exclusively. And then I do
have progress to report though, on the Atlas pullover that I'm
making for my brother and I have knit the body. Keep in mind
though, I have not done the ribbing yet, because I did a
provisional cast on. But I've knit up to the armholes and then set
that aside. I did wash it though, and block it. Because as you know
what we talked about the last episode, it looked like a holiday
wreath, a big sausage tube kind of. So I did wash and block it and
I can... now it's laying flat, so it'll be much easier to measure.
And then I did a provisional cast on for the first sleeve. And I'm
almost done with the first sleeve I have about 10... Let me look at
my pattern. I have about six more rows. And then I will set the
sleeve aside and start the second sleeve. So it's going pretty
quickly. I think because it's on size seven needles. I find it's
not really...maybe it's because I am normally working on three to
five somewhere around... or socks or on ones. Yeah, I find it's a
little more challenging to knit with. It's like, I've heard this
before. Sometimes with larger needles and thicker yarn, like this
is a worsted weight. You're a little harder on my hands and there's
something about this yarn too. It's a little hard to knit with in
the sense that it doesn't really slide along the needles very well.
And it's interesting.
Kelly 15:29
You have you have metal needles?
Marsha 15:32
Yeah, right.
Kelly 15:33
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Marsha 15:35
And it's much better. I'm doing okay, Kelly, I'm drawing a complete
blank. What's the technique called where you have the long circular
needle? Magic loop! Oh, my God. Okay, now I remember that. Magic
loop. [laughing] I'm doing that and that's pretty easy. The body
was I was kind of struggling with it. I finally put it on long a
longer cable and it seemed easier, you know, having a longer cable
for some reason. They seem like they slide it slid better along the
needles. I don't know why that would be.
Kelly 16:06
Well, maybe because they're just not so tight. I don't know.
Marsha 16:09
Yeah, maybe. I don't know. It was interesting, too. This is, I
don't think I mentioned this in the other episodes that the, I've
mentioned, the name of the yarn is this Navia or Neyvia? tradition.
But it's from the Faroe Islands. Oh, and I, which I had forgotten.
And when I looked at the label, later on, I realized that and when
I washed it, it kind of bloomed. It's still a woolly wool. You
know, you definitely would want to wear this over like a flannel
shirt or something. But it's, it feels a little softer having been
washed. A lot of dye came out of this yarn, too. This is a bright
green and a lot the water it just--the water was almost the color
of the yarn. It really lost a lot of dye
Kelly 16:58
Did it fade?
Marsha 17:02
It didn't fade. It had excess dye. Which might affect the feel of
the yarn.It had excess dye in there. So it feels it feels
different. It's it's never gonna, I mean it's softer. It's never
gonna be a soft yarn at all.
Kelly 17:20
right
Marsha 17:20
I mean, you're always gonna have to wear a shirt, you know, under
this, but, and it kind of bloomed. It's very hairy, kind of. It's
really it's really nice yarn. And I think it's gonna be super
durable, too.
Kelly 17:34
You'll have to put a picture in your project page, as I'm looking
at your project page right now and you just have the wreath. I
guess you'll need to take some more pictures now that it's been
blocked and flattened. So you can actually see it's a sweater.
Marsha 17:49
Yeah, I'll do that. And I'll put the sleeve in there too. I did
think I was talking to Mark and we were talking about the sweater
and I said this sweater is going to be the kind of sweater that you
wear to the beach. You wear it when you work in the garden. I mean
this is gonna be a working sweater. Just like, remember the sweater
that you made for gardening at 90?
Kelly 18:09
Yeah,
Marsha 18:11
Yes. And I said to him, You cannot-- you not cannot save this
sweater for something nice. Not, you know, I don't just mean to
abuse it because you never abuse anything but it's not going to be
a fine sweater that you save. You go out and you chop wood in this
sweater. Actually it would be too hot chopping wood. You go sit
outside
Kelly 18:34
during Snowmageddon in this sweater. [laughing]
Marsha 18:36
Yep. Anyway, no this--it's like it's a working sweater is what it
is.
Kelly 18:45
Yeah, nice. That'll be really nice. Anyway, looking forward to see
to seeing it.
Marsha 18:51
So that's all I really have to report. I've not picked up my socks
and not picked up my simple shawl at all. So nothing to report on
those.
Kelly 18:57
All right. I had thought the last time we recorded that I would get
the blanket finished. The Faye's Flower blanket, that Persian Tile
Blanket, by the next episode because I wanted to be able to talk
about it but I did not. I've been screaming along on my other
project. So the sweater. The blanket is just still sitting with not
very much left to do in terms of sewing it together but then quite
a bit of edging to do but none of that happened so I probably
shouldn't even be talking about it. But what I have done, worked a
lot on, is the the sweater that I'm making out of handspun it's...
The pattern for that sweater is called Dark Green Forest. And it's
by Christina Korber-Rieth or Reith, I think is the way it's
pronounced and it has that square... What did you call it? Sailor
collar?
Marsha 20:04
Mm hmm.
Kelly 20:05
Which I think is the right way to describe it. Saddle shoulders
with the cable. Anyway, I am all the way down to the pockets. In
fact, I'm right now I'm working on it. I'm on the third of the
honeycomb cables that goes down the pocket. So I think I have
maybe... 2-4-6? I maybe have about six or eight more rows to go
before the pockets are finished.
Marsha 20:37
Wow!
Kelly 20:37
I know! Yeah. I'm excited about how fast it's going. And so then
once I finished the pocket... Its top down. So once I once I
finished the pocket, or you know, the body down to the bottom of
the pockets. I think there's a there's no ribbing at the bottom. I
should have looked. Let me just check here. Yeah, there's the
regular, you know, the the ribbing on the front band. Oh, yeah,
there is a ribbing at the bottom of this sweater. So the pocket
cables, open up into a ribbing. So that's all that will be left.
Once I finished the pocket. All that will be left is the ribbing on
this on this sweater. And then of course finishing the sleeves.
Marsha 21:32
So I guess I'm not understanding. Are the pockets are knit
separately and attached to the sewn on front of.. the front side of
the sweater or is that pocket the front side and there's a piece in
the back?
Kelly 21:45
Yeah, I'll have to go in the back and make the back part of the
pocket. Oh, you open up a slit.
Marsha 21:54
And okay, I do have to say I have never made-- I've never made
pockets before.
Kelly 21:56
I haven't either. Well, no, that's not true. I made pockets in the
orcas run sweater. That's the only sweater that I put pockets in.
But I did make pockets there. I do have to talk about something odd
in this pattern. Not, not bad. Just it cracks me up. I don't
understand it. You do the colla, gotten done with the collar and
the yoke, the yoke of the sweater, you're into the body. So you
divide it for the sleeves, separated the body and the sleeves. And
then you get into the step that's called "finish the body." Step
six. So you do like three and a half inches under the... after the
underarm after you split. And then it says, "set this aside and
prepare the pocket edgings." And I thought well, that's weird,
because the pockets aren't until you get to the bottom of the
sweater. So I was confused about why you would do that. I read it
like, I don't think I have to set this aside now and do the pocket
edgings. So when I got to the place where I needed to put in the
pockets, I went to do the pocket edgings the pocket edgings are
literally four rows of ribbing that you then attach. You like split
for the pocket. And then on the-- you put some of the stitches-- at
the top, you put some of the stitches at the top of the pocket hole
on waste yarn, and then the bottom of the pocket hole you attach
this ribbing so that it kind of the ribbing kind of pokes up above
where the hole of the pocket will be.
Marsha 23:32
Mm hmm.
Kelly 23:32
Why would you set aside your sweater at the armholes, do four rows
of ribbing twice, then set them aside? If you're me, something that
small could actually get lost doing it so much..so early. Like, I
don't understand it!
Marsha 23:53
because you don't need it for I mean, how many more inches?
Kelly 23:55
For another like 12 inches? Or ten inches at the least.
Marsha 24:00
I have a... I have a theory, okay. Maybe it's like, you know, when
you're doing socks, you know, you do the ribbing and you do like
top down, you do the ribbing. You do the ankles, you know the
length of thing and then just as you're getting bored and sick of
that you start doing the heel flap, maybe and then we and then when
you get tired of all that detail of heel flap, turning the heel,
the gusset Oh, you get to back go back to that mindless stuff.
Kelly 24:27
Maybe it's to give you a break. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. My original
thought was that it was to prevent you from you know, have you do
it early so that you wouldn't just skip the pockets because you
were afraid do you have enough yarn. But they're only four rows. I
mean, this would not even get you... four little rows. This
wouldn't even get you... this much yarn wouldn't even get you one
round. Right? It wouldn't even get you all the way around the
sweater.
Marsha 24:56
Yeah, maybe it's a joke. Yeah. It's maybe the pattern designer
thinks, You know what, I'm going to mess with you!
Kelly 25:03
Yeah. She's messing with my mind. Because literally, that when you
get to the body, you work three and a quarter inches like this. And
this is for all sizes, you work three and a quarter inches after
the armhole. You know, after separating. That's step 6A and finish
the body. And step 6B is prepare pocket edgings. And then you go to
Step 6C and that's when you do your shaping and knit for rows and
rows and rows and rows and rows and rows and rows before you get to
the pockets. It's a mystery. But, but I did them when I needed them
put them on. They look great. Because I always like everything I
knit, right?[laughing] It all looks great. So I'm really happy with
this. I'm really happy with the progress. It's going really fast.
Seems like it's going really fast. So yeah, I'm loving this
handspun sweater it's going to be another one of those sweaters, I
think, that gets a lot of that gets a lot of wear.
Marsha 26:08
Mm hmm.
Kelly 26:09
The only other thing I've been working on....Oh, let me just say a
little bit about this. I will put some information in the show
notes about the two different sheep breeds that I'm working with.
Since it is the Summer Spin In. I put some information... But this
is CVM. And that stands for California Variegated Mutant, which is
the multicolored version of the Romeldale. Remember the judge Mark
Eidman. I think his first name was Mark,
Marsha 26:41
Who just passed away?
Kelly 26:43
The one who passed away. It was his father who discovered some
colored lambs that were appearing in his Romeldale flock, and
instead of culling them they actually bred them for the color. And
so that's where the California Variegated Mutant comes from. And I
have a CVM fleece in the garage, it's a darker than this one, it's
more of a, it's more of a dark gray. This one was more of a beige
that I overdyed. But I really like it. It's not, you know, they
call it a fine wool. I wouldn't say it's like, a super fine, at
least not this one. It's not a super fine wool. It's a little it's
a little more fine than like a Corriedale. It's gonna be a nice
sweater, and I like CVM to spin. And then the other thing that I
have been spinning is Oxford. And I have a little bit of
information about the Oxford sheep also. They were imported into
the US in the 1840s. And it says that it's one of the largest
breeds of sheep, only surpassed by the Lincoln. Although this
fleece was quite small. I think it was quite small. It's probably
about five or six pounds. And that's I mean, if I when I bought a
Lincoln fleece, they've been bigger than that. So skirted heavily,
or maybe a smaller or younger Oxford sheep. I don't... it didn't
say lamb, but it was in the market class, I'm pretty sure. Anyway.
The staple length is one to two inches, which is true. That's what
I'm finding in this, this fleece that I have. So it's one of the
livestock Conservancy breeds as well as the CVM is also a livestock
Conservancy breed. So... but I've been spinning that I'm, I'm on my
third bobbin. I decided to spin all my singles first and then ply
them, which I hardly ever do. But I still was kind of undecided.
Remember, I talked last time about how the three ply seemed too
tight. I mean, that's kind of silly, because I can just ply it more
loosely. That's not a characteristic of three ply, so much as it is
a characteristic of my spinning. So I'm still, I'm still debating
whether I'll make a two ply or a three ply with this. But if I do a
three ply, I want to experiment and, you know, ply it loosely. I
don't want to ply this really, really tight. I want it to be kind
of a fluffy, fluffy yarn. So I have enough bobbins, I think, that I
can just spin the... well maybe not the rest of this, but I can at
least spin four bobbins and then I can either ply three of them
together or I can ply them two and two so I think that's what I'm
planning to do is spin four bobbins and then decide whether I'm
going to make a two ply or or three ply. So yeah, I'm I'm making
good progress on that spinning, it's a little bit boring because
it's a white. It's a white fleece. I think I'll dye the yarn when
I'm done. Well, that's it for my projects, Marsha. I know that you
aren't going to talk about a certain part of your house, but you
were doing some cleaning out. And I have a question about that. So
you posted on Instagram that you were taking two big garbage bags
full of yarn to destash at the Goodwill. And I just thought it
would be interesting to hear, like, how did you decide what you
were going to get rid of?
Marsha 30:42
Well, it actually was pretty easy. I'll tell you what I got rid of.
It was spirit yarn that I got from the Goodwill.
Kelly 30:50
Okay,
Marsha 30:50
Those days when I would go to the Goodwill. I have used some of it.
Like, for example, I remember I was getting all kinds of worsted
weight yarns for that Afghan that I made that I used my dad's old
sweater then took apart and combined it with other yarn.
Kelly 31:09
Yeah.
Marsha 31:10
So a lot of that worsted weight Goodwill yarn went into that.
Kelly 31:14
Yeah, it wasn't that wasn't that blanket, like five pounds or
something? I remember you weighed it. You went to the pet store or
the vet. Yeah. [laughing]
Marsha 31:19
Yeah. Yes. I went to the vet to use their scale. Because my scale
wouldn't hold it. It wasn't big-- you know, the scale, my bathroom
scale wasn't big enough to hold it. But I and then I still kept a
lot of that worsted weight yarn that I got at the Goodwill because
my plan was to make an afghan for my brother. And I'm still
determined to do it. If I don't do it in the next couple of years,
then I'm going to have to just get rid of that yarn.
Kelly 31:47
Oh, okay.
Marsha 31:48
And then a lot of it came from the destash room. So if Gayle and
Charlene and Barb and Tracy are listening to this... Do you
remember the first year we went to the knockers retreat? And I
could not believe! I could not believe people were giving away yarn
for free, I could not believe it. And I was like going in there and
like, feeling guilty that I was taking it and they're all laughing
at us because we-- I was sneaking in there Every time I left the
room.
Kelly 32:15
Every time you couldn't see Marsha it was like, Oh, where's Marsha?
I bet she's in the destash room.
Marsha 32:24
Well, here's my takeaway. There's a reason why all that yarn was at
the Goodwill. And there's a reason why it was all in the destash
room. But I was just, you know, I was so excited. And I had all
these possibilities of things I was gonna make and how could
anybody possibly get rid of it? It's so wonderful. And I have used
a lot of it. I have to say I did use a lot of that yarn.
Kelly 32:48
Yeah.
Marsha 32:50
And there's some things I did. But I thought, you know, I've not
used it in how many years? And I have so much yarn that I purchased
at Stitches, and yarn crawls, and two trips to Scotland and a trip
to Iceland. And I'd rather be knitting with that yarn, that I've
invested money and it's beautiful yarn.
Kelly 33:12
Yeah.
Marsha 33:12
And so I thought it was pretty easy decision to make... to decide.
But I did think it was funny people's reactions to the Instagram
post about what I was getting rid of. Because one person's comment
was, "Is it wrong that I'm trying to read the labels?" So funny.
[laughing] And somebody also wanted to know what Goodwill I was
dropping it off at, you know. And then it was interesting,
on--because I have it set up when I post something on Instagram it
posts to Facebook. And there was one woman that commented that-- I
can't remember how she worried but basically, oh, that I've reached
that age where? Because I think my comment in my post was-- and I
was joking. I truly was joking when I said this-- I won't live long
enough to knit all that yarn. She really thought.. like her
response was, Oh, you've reached that age where... and that, you
know, I'm preparing for my death by clearing out my house so that
my heirs won't have to deal with it. And it's like, okay, I
never--that is not what I was thinking at all.[laughing] That is
not at all what I was thinking I don't consider myself to be that
age. I just tried to lighten my load and I somebody else should
have it.
Kelly 34:35
Yeah, who who is this person? A friend? A friend would not consider
you to be old! [laughing]
Marsha 34:44
Anyway, so it was... that was amusing to me that comment because
that's not how I see it. You know, I was really... I guess you have
to be careful. what I think is funny is not what other people
think!
Kelly 34:56
Right?
Marsha 34:57
Or some people think when I say things I think are funny, they take
it literally like I'm preparing for my death.
Kelly 35:04
Right, right. Well, thinking about the the feeling of being so
excited about all the yarn at the destash room at the NoCKRs
retreat and how there's a reason some things are in destash. I
remember when I was doing the Master Gardener class and they
started having, cutting, you know, cutting giveaways and seed
giveaways, and they started encouraging us to bring things that we
were...you know, bring cuttings and so they'll put stuff out in the
patio, and oh my gosh, it was like, you had to be careful not to
get elbowed in the ribs or, or knocked aside, when all these
gardeners would just, like, practically make a run for the patio.
And, I mean, honestly, it looked like a bunch of yard waste.
[laughing]
Marsha 36:02
Yeah,
Kelly 36:02
You know, I mean, that's literally what it was, was people's yard
waste. And, and, and I just... I was right in there, you know,
getting excited and throwing elbows to get my thing that I needed.
And then I found out about this cutting day that they had in
Monterey and I went to that and I got some of that, you know, some
of the stuff that people were giving away and when you plant it,
you realize why they're giving it away. Like not not that they're
getting rid of it out of their yard.
Marsha 36:36
Mm hmm.
Kelly 36:37
But the reason that they can give you all these cuttings is that
it's super invasive and spreading all over, they have to dig it up
every year to get rid of some of it. Like Alstroemeria was one of
them that, you know, there was just always always somebody bringing
Alstroemeria And anyway, I don't have to go into all the...
Marsha 37:02
I have it in my alley. That alstromeria in the alley and is it just
takes over you know, yeah, it takes over. Yeah.
Kelly 37:09
Which is good in some settings, but, it's just kind of funny that
it's the same, you know. Yeah, free plants. Destashing plants
causes the same sort of frenzy.
Marsha 37:23
The other thing I was gonna say about the NoCKRs retreat, and that
was the first time I experienced that people are just giving this
yarn away and my... But many of the attendees didn't even go in the
room. Right? Or they went in the room to put their stuff there and
they never went in, or they just go in there casually look. And,
and I really, but now I understand. They were able to do because
they have so much at home, but they could exercise restraint,
probably because they had so much.
Kelly 37:52
And maybe had done the same kind of clearing-- done the same
thing.
Marsha 37:56
Yeah. So I'm sure at the time, people were like, Oh, yes, she will
learn.
Kelly 38:02
Right, right
Marsha 38:03
Give her a few years. And she will learn!
Kelly 38:05
Yeah, everybody's at a little bit different, different stage in
that in that process.
Marsha 38:11
Yeah. But I will say though, I did order plastic boxes. Well, I
should say I had all my yarn in, you know, these plastic like
drawers. I got them at the Goodwill. And when my stash... and I had
one and then a my stash got a little bigger and then I found
another one, it got bigger. So they're all from the Goodwill.
Anyway, I just pulled all the yarn out. And the stuff that I
decided I was going to keep I just temporarily put it in paper bags
labeled it and then I ordered plastic bins and those arrived
actually just yesterday. And so last night I started putting my
yarn in there and then I'm gonna be... because some of the...I will
say some of the wool, one batch, like a sweater quantities worth of
yarn, actually, I discovered had some moth damage. So I I just
threw that in the garbage. And I didn't even give that away. I just
threw it in the garbage. And then I... so I have cedar and lavender
which I'm going to put in those bins to protect it somewhat. It'll
be much easier to see what I have, too, because some of the bins
were clear. Some of them that I had before, and some were not
clear. It was in bags, it was just all kind of random. So now it's
going to be much more organized and I can actually can see what I
have, visually being able to see everything every time I go down
into that place in the house because I can't say the word.
Both 39:39
[laughing]
Marsha 39:45
Oh no, I'll call it the cellar. There we go! When I go down to the
cellar. I think then it it'll be reinforcement. No you don't need
to buy anymore. I really don't need to buy any. So like I'm going
to show up at NoCKRs...
Kelly 39:58
We'll check back!
Marsha 39:59
Yes, I'm going to show up at at Stitches when it happens again. And
when Black Sheep happens again, I'm going to show up, but I am
really going to try not to buy anything because I seriously have
enough yarn. And it's a crime to just buy something and put it in
your stash and not use it, I need to use it. It's not a crime,
that's too harsh, right?
Kelly 40:20
It's just, it would be nice to use it. if it's a crime. everyone
listening to this is a criminal. [laughing]
Marsha 40:29
That's true. That's too harsh. It's not a crime, but it'd be nice
to knit with it, you know? So anyway,
Kelly 40:36
And if you truly aren't going to knit with it ever, and you know,
you're not going to ever get to it, then yes, it is. It's time to
get rid of it. It's the whole, you know, I mean, that's what all
those seed packets and cuttings represented. And that's what yarn
in the destash room represents. It's like, hope and possibility.
You know, I can... I mean, I still have that have that feeling
about some yarn that's been sitting in my stash forever. And like,
really? Is there still a possibility or a hope that I'm gonna use
it? Um, yeah, maybe?
Marsha 41:16
Yeah, I think that's hope. And I think also a lot of it, I was just
inspired by it. Oh, just, you know, oh, this is... I have these
ideas about what I was going to do with it. And it'll go to
somebody else's idea. So, right. Well, and what about you? I see we
have a note here about fiber books.
Kelly 41:37
Yeah, I still...So there's the inside studio, it's been painted,
there's a bookcase there now. Actually, yarn shelving that, you
know, that was was put in. It's still not painted, but I've got my
stuff on it. But the boxes of stuff that came out of there, I still
haven't put away. They're still sitting in the living room. And I
was looking at them the other day thinking, Okay, I've got to do
something with this. And, you know, there's not enough room on the
shelf, the shelf unit, to put the books and the yarn. So now I have
to make decisions about about books and, and some of them are not
knitting books. And those are going to be hard, hard decisions to
make. But I have a whole box...probably box and a half maybe--of
fiber books. And so I just have to figure out what I'm going to do
with them and whether I'm going to destash them. What am I going to
keep.
Marsha 42:39
Do you look at them?
Kelly 42:43
Some of them. Yes. Like, I know for sure I have the book. It's old.
It's called Socks, Socks, Socks. And it's just a whole bunch of
different sock patterns. I have. And I've made, I've made quite a
few pairs of socks out of it. And then I used it a lot before I
really was experienced knitting socks to know like, how many
stitches should I cast on given the given the, you know, the height
of the sock or the type of yarn, you know, I go and look at the
cast ons for the different socks to know how many stitches I should
cast on before I just kind of got to the point where I just know
what to cast on. But I think I'll keep that one because because
I've used it so much. And so there's not just there's not just
useful information in there and patterns that I might use again, or
patterns that I might use. But there's memories about my early
knitting days connected to that book. So like that book, I'll keep
but I bought, I bought two really nice hardback books by Nicky
Epstein of edgings. So one is called like knitting on the edge. And
the other one is called something else. So there's, there's two
different types of edging, I can't remember now. There's, like
edgings that are part of the garment and edgings that you add to
the garment. It's kind of like a stitch dictionary, but of edgings.
And they're beautiful books. I've never looked at either one of
them past, you know, just like flipping through when I first bought
it and then flipping through when I put it in the box to put it
away. And will I ever really use that to create an edging on
something? And probably not, you know, but then I think oh, but
there's so many really cool things I could do. And then I keep them
so... And they're really pretty books.
Marsha 44:35
And they're so small and you have a big house.
Kelly 44:37
Oh, they're not small. These books are not small. They're a lot
more like coffee table
Marsha 44:40
They're big and you have a big house.
Kelly 44:43
They're more I mean, they really are like the coffee table. They're
an odd size. Actually they don't fit on the bookshelf there.
They're like legal size length. sideways. Like they're oh they're
wider than they are tall. So they're an odd shape. They don't fit
on the bookcase. So they'll probably end up going, but but you
know, there's a lot of things kind of in between that spectrum of
I'll definitely keep this and, and these books are pretty, but I
will never use them.
Marsha 45:17
Yeah.
Kelly 45:18
And so I have to make some decisions there about what I'm going to
do with them. So I kind of don't want to even open the boxes.
Because I know I mean, I know that the number of books that I can
actually keep on that shelf is, is small. And they've been in boxes
for like, two years. Three years, maybe. Yeah, I haven't missed
them. Yeah, right. So yeah. And then I have the other books. I have
a box of dog books. Dog Training books, dog picture books, dog
breed books from, you know, the, when we had labs and water
spaniel, and, and there's just too much emotional connection to all
that stuff that I know I don't really want to think about it, but I
don't need it. I clearly don't need those books. They've been in a
box for a really long time. There's been only a very few that I've
dug into the box to get.
Marsha 46:24
Yeah. Well, I mean, I in terms of books, I have cookbooks, you
know, my cookbooks. and then combined with my mother's cookbooks,
and I some were duplicates. So I got rid of duplicates, obviously.
But...
Kelly 46:39
And those are possibilities and hopes of what you could cook.
Marsha 46:42
Exactly. And and I you know...But there's I don't know, like
I...the truth is, honestly, there's just certain cookbooks, I make
stuff out of all the time I go back to. The rest, I don't really
look at that much. And then a lot of times I get inspiration. It's
like, Oh, I have these ingredients. What can I make out of it? And
I just do a little Google search. Right? And so I'm actually using
the internet a lot more.
Kelly 47:10
Yeah,
Marsha 47:10
but I....ugh... someday. I'm not ready.
Kelly 47:14
Right, right.
Marsha 47:14
I'll go through them and get rid of things.
Kelly 47:16
Yeah. But you have a...you have a bookcase for them. Right? They're
all sitting on the shelves.
Marsha 47:22
Yeah, they're all in the library.
Kelly 47:25
I knew when I got rid of those shelves, that I was gonna have to
get rid of a lot of books. And I did. But it's gonna take me
several rounds of destashing to get rid of the number of books that
I need to get rid of. Because they're just... there's... Yeah,
there's some emotion attached to them. So...
Marsha 47:45
Well. All in good time.
Kelly 47:47
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That is true. The the closet behind me got
cleaned out. I don't know if I was talking about that I wanted to
do that. But the closet behind me here in the... where I record,
the dressing room in the other bedroom? We got that cleaned out and
I got it put back together, there's a lot of room in there now. I
could put the boxes of books in there and not think about them for
another three or four years. [laughing] And at which time that I
might be ready to get rid of them. We'll see.
Marsha 48:20
So I just... I just... as we're talking about this, I'm just
thinking about emotional attachment to books. And I I've gotten rid
of pretty much all of Ben's books that he had when he was a little
kid you read to him and he had a lot of books because I worked in a
bookstore, right? So I would just buy stuff, which I realize now in
hindsight, I should have just gotten them from the library. But
there were some books that I hung on to because I loved reading
them to him so much. And all this whole series of books by the
author Bill Peet. Do you know him?
Kelly 48:53
That doesn't ring a bell, no.
Marsha 48:56
Last name is P-e-e-t. And he was the author illustrator of these
books. And I love the the art, the illustrations, I love them. And
then the stories were great. Like there was-- Ella was one of them.
And Ella was an elephant from the circus. And she she lives in...
she was very pampered. And she got a little bit too big for her
head and decided to to leave. Run away from the circus. So she runs
away from the circus. And she gets captured by a farmer who
realizes that this is really great to have this elephant you can
work on the farm, to work on the farm. And it's a story basically,
you know, sort of be grateful for what you have, because it's not
necessarily greener on the other side. So there's that story.
There's another one that we loved to read called is Jennifer and
Josephine. And now I can't remember which one was which. I think
Jennifer was a cat. And she lived in this old car.
Kelly 49:57
Oh, I see the illustrations. I went to his website. And I'm looking
at the illustrations, so cool.
Marsha 50:02
Yeah, anyway, Jennifer and Josephine and I think Jennifer, as I
say, was the cat. And Josephine was the car. And it's like an old
Model T. The cat, this is her home, and some salesman comes and
buys the car, and they throw some new tires on it. And Josephine is
shocked that she's now being driven. She's been sitting for years
in this junkyard, and the cat's distressed and driving crazy and
the salesman is just a horrible person. He treats Josephine the car
terrible, he doesn't realize the cat's in the car. And he crashes
the the car, and it goes into the river. And so the cat goes and
sees a farm, goes to the farm and gets... draws attention...A
little girl, the farmer's daughter goes out and finds the car,
tells the dad. The dad comes and gets the car and pulls the car out
of the river. Saves the car, saves the cat. They're excited to have
this cat now. And he's excited to have this car because he couldn't
afford a car. So he he now fixes the car up and Josephine the car
is super happy because she's never driven over 15 miles an hour. I
don't know. They're such charming stories. He was so charming.
Anyway, I'm going off on this, telling about these stories, about
the this author Bill Peet but I used to read those to Ben all the
time. And there was another one Lyle, Lyle Crocodile.
Kelly 51:42
Oh, yeah.
Marsha 51:42
I don't remember the author. But Lyle is a crocodile that lives in
New York City in a bathtub in some family's apartment. And he's
very erudite and and is a good conversationalist. And that people
invite him to tea parties and cocktail parties and stuff. This
crocodile. And we would read those all the time. And so when I
moved, I had saved those books to come to the house. And there's
bags of books to go to the Goodwill and of course, you're ahead of
me. Mark took them all to the Goodwill. All the Bill Peet books are
gone and Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile are gone. And I was devastated. I'm
still kind of devastated by it. Now the reality is, am I ever going
to read those books again? Probably not.
Kelly 52:27
And some child is getting to read them.
Marsha 52:30
Yes, exactly.
Kelly 52:31
Which is what books should have. A book that's not being read is
sad.
Marsha 52:36
Yeah. Right.
Kelly 52:37
I mean, I don't know if books actually feel sadness. But...
Marsha 52:41
You know, anyway, they were just...Maybe what I should do is just
go out and buy a copy of Ella and Jennifer and Josephine, because
those were kind of my two favorite from that. Those books anyway,
of that from that author, anyway,
Kelly 52:55
Well, I'll put the pages in the show notes. Okay, because I was
just looking at the pictures while you were talking. And they are.
They are really cute. Very cute.
Marsha 53:10
And since we're talking about it, since I was not planning on
making a book recommendation, but I here's that that was a
recommendation. I've been watching Netflix and working on Mark's
sweater. And I watched a documentary the other day, which I just
wanted to mention that because I thought it was really interesting.
And it's called, people have probably heard of this. But if you
haven't, it's called This Changes Everything. And it's a
documentary made by the actress Gina Davis. It says here in 2004,
Davis launched the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media, which
works collaboratively with the entertainment industry to
dramatically increase the presence of female characters and media.
So this documentary talks about her, why she started this
institute. And then different actresses' experiences female
directors' experiences trying to make it in the film industry. And
how most media are... a lot of the entertainment that we watch in
the United States and around the world is coming out of Hollywood
and how women are portrayed on film. And how... so it's it's an
excellent documentary, and I highly recommend it. It's really good.
I will say the one thing that sort of...At the end of the
film...One of the things they talk about is how difficult it is for
women directors to get jobs, directing films. And they actually
have lists of when studios are going to make a film. They have
lists of directors that they pass around that you know who's made
it. This is who you want to consider first, this is who you would
consider second. If none of those are are available, way down the
bottom of the list are these, are the people you might want to
consider. And one of the women--who is way, the only woman on the
list--who was way down at the bottom was Kathryn Bigelow, who won
an Academy Award for The Hurt Locker. So she's an Academy Award
winning director, but she's at the bottom of the list, right?
Because men are getting the these jobs. Anyway, this does not take
away from how good the documentary is. But at the end, I'm reading
the credits. And you know who directed the documentary?
Kelly 55:24
A man?
Marsha 55:25
Some guy named Tom! And I'm like, I'm sorry, what?
Kelly 55:34
Oh, yeah.
Marsha 55:36
Now, that doesn't take away from it really, because it was an
excellent, excellent series or documentary. I recommend it because
it really sort of opened your eyes to how women are portrayed in
film and in television shows. And how many women who when they do
get a chance, how much money they're making for the industry.
Kelly 55:54
Yeah.
Marsha 55:56
Interesting. You know, but they still selected the man. Not to take
away from the man either right? He did a great job, but it's just
humorous to me. But anyway, I'll put a link in there.
Kelly 56:09
That'd be good.
Marsha 56:10
What else we got going on here? Are you going anywhere at all?
Or?
Kelly 56:13
Well, in August, I am going to be at the San Francisco
International Pen Show.
Marsha 56:21
Yeah, who knew?
Kelly 56:22
I know. Well, you know, they have a conference for everything.
Marsha 56:28
Right. Mm hmm.
Kelly 56:30
I'm sure that the pen people would be surprised that there's
something called Stitches.
Marsha 56:35
Yes. Right.
Kelly 56:36
So I'm going to go check it out and see, see what that... see what
that world is like. And I'll be there on the Saturday. It's in
Redwood City, which is actually south of San Francisco. That's
actually really nice. It's it'll be an even an easier drive to get
there. But yeah, we're planning to-- planning to go and take a look
at the the pens and if any of our listeners are going, also
planning to go to the Pen Show I'd love to love to see you will
have to let me know.
Marsha 57:13
Say Kelly, pens don't take up very much space in your house!
Kelly 57:17
Yeah. But you know, what's funny, is, you know, the the sock yarn
skein that you buy the souvenir sockyarn? Apparently, in the pen
world, the equivalent of that is ink. I saw an ink cupboard on
Instagram yesterday. Like, oh my gosh, that is definitely more ink
than you could use in a lifetime. I mean, because every time you
you put your put ink in your pen, I don't know, three to five
milliliters, I think. And these, you know, jars of ink are like 20
milliliters, 30 milliliters, some of them are like 70
milliliters.
Marsha 58:06
Wow.
Kelly 58:07
So definitely more ink than you could use. It's definitely an ink
collection. As opposed to a stash of ink for use, I think. But
yeah, you know, because you can buy a bottle of ink depending on
the ink you can buy a bottle of ink for you know 10 bucks. Whereas
a pen
Marsha 58:26
Cheaper than... cheaper than yarn!
Kelly 58:29
And, and then you know, some of the pens are some of the pens are
quite inexpensive. Some Chinese fountain pens are quite
inexpensive, they're you know, their pens, you definitely... you
can get for under $20. But a lot of pens are more expensive than
that. And so yeah, if you don't have... if you can't satisfy your
collection urge by buying a pen, you can get a souvenir. You can
get a souvenir bottle of ink wherever you go. So anyway, that's on
my that's on my agenda for August. And I'm really looking forward.
Really looking forward to it.
Marsha 59:12
Yeah, it'll be fun.
Kelly 59:15
It'll be interesting to see another, you know, another world. So
another hobby world.
Marsha 59:22
Mm hmm.
Kelly 59:23
But my box of pens, my one cigar box that I converted into a pen
box is full. And so I'm calling my collection complete.
Marsha 59:34
But I happen to know that you have more than one cigar box.
[laughing]
Kelly 59:36
I do. Yes. And actually. Well and that Mark. Mark did yeah, I have
three of them. So but only one of them has been outfitted to hold
the pen so far. Yeah, but we did go to dinner with a work friend
the other night and he gave me, he gave me a Chinese fountain pen
that he had, like, Oh, this is really nice. And he's like, yeah, I
think it was about five bucks. And I can't believe you bought this
pen for only $5. He's like, why don't you take it? So, so in full
confession, I do have one pen that doesn't fit in the box. So I
could start a second box, but I will not do that anytime soon. So,
but I might find something that I like at the pen show. We'll see.
Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely bring home a souvenir bottle of ink
Marsha 1:00:39
Well, I guess the last thing that we need to talk about Kelly is
the summer spin in. Just to remind people it's going on. And it...
we just have about a month to go before it ends. Labor Day, which
is September sixth. We'll have some prizes from Three Green
Sisters. And we'll have more details. But...
Kelly 1:00:59
Yeah, and I have also some fiber from Sincere Sheep. That will
be... I never took a picture of it and put it up on the thread. But
I also bought some fiber from sincere sheep. That'll be our prize
too.
Marsha 1:01:11
Okay. All right. Yeah. So keep spinning. Yes. All right. Well have
fun at the pen show! Well, I'll talk to you before that.
Kelly 1:01:17
Yeah, it's not till the end of August. We'll record again.
Marsha 1:01:19
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, then I will let you go so you can get out
there and start spinning.
Kelly 1:01:24
All right.
Marsha 1:01:26
All righty.
Kelly 1:01:26
Bye bye. Thank you so much for listening. To subscribe to the
podcast visit Two Ewes Fiber Adventures dot com.
Marsha 1:01:34
Join us on our adventures on Ravelry and Instagram. I am
betterinmotion and Kelly is 1hundredprojects.
Both 1:01:41
Until next time, we're the two ewes doing our part for world
fleece.
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